Wanna see the Civic build?

***Electrodynamic*** · 04-18-2008, 01:38 PM

Well I've decided to start working on the Civic in anticipation of the new Mag proto and new BM proto coming in a few weeks. Here is what I've got planned for the little sucker:

Stock alt (I had a 200 amp in it but it pooped out after about 2 days with no stereo installed so I'm NOT having it rebuilt and put back in).
Two Power Master batteries
Eclipse 8454
TaraLabs interconnects
SAZ-100.4
SAE-1000D
Twin 5.25" Aerogel mid's per side
One Morel 1" Neo tweet per side
One SI BM or SI Mag in a false floor in the back. This will be temporary until the production run comes in and then it will probably end up being four Mag's or four BM's off a 3000D in a false floor.

Anyway, do you guys wanna see the build? I might get started this weekend.

Megalomaniac · 04-18-2008, 04:16 PM

What year civic do you have?

From what Chad was telling me, he said you had a real nice SQ system. He said your imaging was killer for the tweeter being in the Kick. I find it hard to imagine a tweeter in the kick can sound like its coming from past the windshield. But people swear by it. I wish I could hear it, to understand it.

Oh may I ask which alternator crapped out on you after 2 days?

***Electrodynamic*** · 04-18-2008, 05:46 PM

Chad was talking about the Integra. I had a 94 Integra Type-R clone that I had Koda components in. The tweets were in the kick and the mids were in the factory locations. My sound stage was really wide and really deep...and it was about eye level too. Those Koda's kicked butt in the midbass department too...man those were nice mids. I let them go with the car when I sold it though.

You'll have to ask Chad what kind of alt it is. It was externally regulated (talk about a bitch to wire up and make it all look pretty - I'm anal about everything) and the external regulator is still in the car wired up but it doesn't control anything now, obviously.

Putting tweeters in the kicks and imaging well is pretty simple really - you want everything to come from one location. If you aim the tweeters correctly (I do passenger side tweet aimed at the driver and driver side tweet aimed at the passenger) and put your mids really close to the tweeters your sound stage is almost always really high. When you get into having to tune the PISS out of your tweeters (usually active systems b/c they offer more flexibility, which is what I mean by "tuning" a tweeter) is when you have your tweets on the A-pillars and your mids down low. Not to mention that it's a time alignment nightmare. I ran the Koda's as they came stock and I only had one channel of time alignment (the left channel was the only one delayed) and I won every SQ competition I entered.

The Civic will be an interesting project because I know what I have in my head...all I've got to do is make it happen in the car.

*edit* I forgot, the Civic is a 94.

PS: Here are a few pics of the Integra's kicks (it's also at the bottom of the demo car page):

Those were during the install phase, so things were dirty.

Here's another shot of the car:

And the best pic... (man I loved the way it looked back there)

Megalomaniac · 04-18-2008, 07:59 PM

well, there is one main reason why I dont like a tweeter kick install. Is when I drive sometimes I shift around, you know lean forward a bit or lean far back. I hate any sound coming from the bottom of the car. So I guess I am a cheater, but thats just the way I like my sound, just to stay in windshield area. One thing I did figure out was playing with t/a I got some serious depth and width. My left channels are only delayed too.

I know a lot of people(including ID techs) say to delay both mids until it reaches stage height and then start giving left channel more delay to shift sound over...But i never felt I needed to do all that.

I dont see how that Driver side tweeter is aimed at passenger at all, looks like it its aimed right at driver.

***Electrodynamic*** · 04-18-2008, 08:02 PM

Yeah, the driver kick tweet was aimed at the driver. Had to do that with the factory kick without fiberglassing.

Megalomaniac · 04-18-2008, 11:09 PM

So what locations will you use for the Vic? Anything special?

***Electrodynamic*** · 04-19-2008, 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Megalomaniac

So what locations will you use for the Vic? Anything special?

Vic?

*Tirefryr* · 04-19-2008, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Electrodynamic

Vic?

CiVic

Hell even I could figure that one out.

hobie1dog · 04-19-2008, 06:15 PM

Quote:

And the best pic... (man I loved the way it looked back there)

That was nice after all the work you did, but as usual didn't last very long

Megalomaniac · 04-22-2008, 09:47 AM

thought you might be interested in these Nick

http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...ad.php?t=35609

04-18-2008, 01:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
*Electrodynamic* Stereo Integrity Owner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 705	Wanna see the Civic build? Well I've decided to start working on the Civic in anticipation of the new Mag proto and new BM proto coming in a few weeks. Here is what I've got planned for the little sucker: Stock alt (I had a 200 amp in it but it pooped out after about 2 days with no stereo installed so I'm NOT having it rebuilt and put back in). Two Power Master batteries Eclipse 8454 TaraLabs interconnects SAZ-100.4 SAE-1000D Twin 5.25" Aerogel mid's per side One Morel 1" Neo tweet per side One SI BM or SI Mag in a false floor in the back. This will be temporary until the production run comes in and then it will probably end up being four Mag's or four BM's off a 3000D in a false floor. Anyway, do you guys wanna see the build? I might get started this weekend. __________________ Electrodynamic Don't install suckage!

04-18-2008, 05:46 PM	#3 (permalink)
*Electrodynamic* Stereo Integrity Owner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 705	Chad was talking about the Integra. I had a 94 Integra Type-R clone that I had Koda components in. The tweets were in the kick and the mids were in the factory locations. My sound stage was really wide and really deep...and it was about eye level too. Those Koda's kicked butt in the midbass department too...man those were nice mids. I let them go with the car when I sold it though. You'll have to ask Chad what kind of alt it is. It was externally regulated (talk about a bitch to wire up and make it all look pretty - I'm anal about everything) and the external regulator is still in the car wired up but it doesn't control anything now, obviously. Putting tweeters in the kicks and imaging well is pretty simple really - you want everything to come from one location. If you aim the tweeters correctly (I do passenger side tweet aimed at the driver and driver side tweet aimed at the passenger) and put your mids really close to the tweeters your sound stage is almost always really high. When you get into having to tune the PISS out of your tweeters (usually active systems b/c they offer more flexibility, which is what I mean by "tuning" a tweeter) is when you have your tweets on the A-pillars and your mids down low. Not to mention that it's a time alignment nightmare. I ran the Koda's as they came stock and I only had one channel of time alignment (the left channel was the only one delayed) and I won every SQ competition I entered. The Civic will be an interesting project because I know what I have in my head...all I've got to do is make it happen in the car. edit I forgot, the Civic is a 94. PS: Here are a few pics of the Integra's kicks (it's also at the bottom of the demo car page): Those were during the install phase, so things were dirty. Here's another shot of the car: And the best pic... (man I loved the way it looked back there) __________________ Electrodynamic Don't install suckage!

04-18-2008, 08:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
*Electrodynamic* Stereo Integrity Owner Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 705	Yeah, the driver kick tweet was aimed at the driver. Had to do that with the factory kick without fiberglassing. __________________ Electrodynamic Don't install suckage!

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04-18-2008, 04:16 PM	#2 (permalink)
Megalomaniac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 231	What year civic do you have? From what Chad was telling me, he said you had a real nice SQ system. He said your imaging was killer for the tweeter being in the Kick. I find it hard to imagine a tweeter in the kick can sound like its coming from past the windshield. But people swear by it. I wish I could hear it, to understand it. Oh may I ask which alternator crapped out on you after 2 days?

04-18-2008, 07:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Megalomaniac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 231	well, there is one main reason why I dont like a tweeter kick install. Is when I drive sometimes I shift around, you know lean forward a bit or lean far back. I hate any sound coming from the bottom of the car. So I guess I am a cheater, but thats just the way I like my sound, just to stay in windshield area. One thing I did figure out was playing with t/a I got some serious depth and width. My left channels are only delayed too. I know a lot of people(including ID techs) say to delay both mids until it reaches stage height and then start giving left channel more delay to shift sound over...But i never felt I needed to do all that. I dont see how that Driver side tweeter is aimed at passenger at all, looks like it its aimed right at driver.

04-18-2008, 11:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
Megalomaniac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 231	So what locations will you use for the Vic? Anything special?

04-22-2008, 09:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
Megalomaniac Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 231	thought you might be interested in these Nick http://www.diymobileaudio.com/forum/...ad.php?t=35609

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